June 30, 2022

TMZ to Elder on ‘Systemic’ Racism: You’re Using Facts; I’m Using Humanity

Maybe it was because the presidential election was just a few days away. Or maybe it was because I arrived at the airport a good two hours before my flight and had plenty of time. Or maybe it was because of the combative interview I recently had with the celebrity website TMZ. We will get to that later.

But as I walked through the Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport, I saw a young white man with long black hair, maybe 20 years old, walking toward me. He was wearing a black T-shirt with white letters: “Protect Black Women.” It was quite early. The airport wasn’t particularly busy, and he and I were alone in a hall corridor.

“Excuse me,” I said, “Do you mind if I ask in what way aren’t Black women protected?”

He wasn’t sure he heard me correctly, as we were both wearing masks, so I repeated the question.

“Oh, they aren’t protected in every way,” he said.

“In every way?”


“Humor me.” I said. “Just give me one way.”

“Just look at it. It’s everywhere.”

“Could you just give me one example, please?” I repeated.

I was smiling underneath the mask so that he would not feel this was a confrontation, but the conversation got increasingly edgy.

“It’s all over the country,” he said.

“Well, if it’s all over the country, it should be easy for you to give me an example of how Black women aren’t protected. Can you just give me one?”

He finally said, “Black women are not paid the same as white women.”

“For the same work?” I said.


“Why, then, does any white woman have a job?

“What do you mean?” he said.

“Well, if I am an employer, and I can hire Black women to do the same work as my white female employees have been doing — except I can pay them less money — why wouldn’t I fire the white women and hire only Black women?”

“That would be illegal,” he said.

“It’s been illegal since the 1960s to pay female or Black employees less money for doing the same work as male or white employees. President John F. Kennedy signed the laws. And, according to the Department of Labor, if you compare apples to apples — a woman with the same education and work experience as a male counterpart — there is virtually no difference in their pay.”

“I’m not sure that’s true,” he said. “I’m not interested in carrying on this conversation anymore. And, by the way, I am Black.”

That surprised me. The man looked as Black as Mitt Romney.

“It doesn’t matter what race you are,” I replied as the young man turned to walk away. “Facts don’t stop being facts if you are Black — and you are wrong. Spreading this kind of disinformation makes things worse — not better, worse. And if you’re not interested in having this kind of conversation, perhaps a different choice of T-shirt next time?”

This brings me to TMZ.

Days earlier, I squared off on television against Harvey Levin, the founder and face of the website TMZ. In an interview TMZ later posted on its website, Levin’s Black co-host, Charles Latibeaudiere, criticized President Donald Trump for denying the existence of police “systemic racism.” When I agreed with Trump, things quickly went south.

“There is no evidence whatsoever of systemic racism.” I said to Levin. “I asked you to prove it.” He then named a few high-profile examples of Blacks killed by cops.

I offered research done by Roland Fryer, a Black Harvard professor whose study found the police were more reluctant to pull the trigger against a Black suspect than a white suspect. I noted studies done by Washington State professors who reached similar conclusions. I pointed out that more unarmed whites are killed by the police every year than unarmed Blacks, but the media, Levin included, “couldn’t care less” when the suspect is an unarmed white man.

After more back-and-forth, I said to Levin, a lawyer who graduated from University of Chicago Law School, that “you ought to be ashamed of yourself” for pushing this dangerous lie.

Levin replied, “You are relying on statistics. And you are not looking at humanity.”

“It’s called facts,” I said.

You are relying on statistics … not looking at humanity. Words fail.

Larry Elder is a bestselling author and nationally syndicated radio talk show host. His latest book, “The New Trump Standard,” is available in paperback from Amazon.com and for Nook, Kindle, iBooks and GooglePlay. To find out more about Larry Elder, or become an “Elderado,” visit www.LarryElder.com. Follow Larry on Twitter @LarryElder. To read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.



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Jesse (@guest_1073298)
1 year ago

I remember hearing somewhere that Feelings Aren’t Facts. The left is all about feelings and pushing this on our society at such an alarming rate that many people are believing them. It’s like trying to debate with children. You can’t. I will believe what I want to believe and you can’t stop me. What about facts? Humanity(feelings) Trumps facts(truth).

Sandra Lambert (@guest_1073377)
Reply to  Jesse
1 year ago

Well said!

Theodore (@guest_1073714)
Reply to  Jesse
1 year ago

Pushing feelings rather than facts is it communist measure. I oughta know. I had a relative who were the Communists until he saw the light now he’s a Republican.
And I don’t know what it was that triggered it but I’m glad that he saw the light.

Phillp Owens SFC Ret (@guest_1073383)
1 year ago

You can’t fix STUPID and you can’t fix IGNORANCE, nor can you fix UNREASONABLE thought.

MSPS (@guest_1073405)
1 year ago

Jesse I agree with you – to a point! The left are all about feelings – when they are trying to manipulate them. They really don’t give a fig about feelings, unless it is their own. Remember how many times they spoke of science and fact-based evidence? Especially during this pandemic? The left are opportunists. They use or manipulate feelings and facts to obtain their objective.
A congress without term limits has turned many congress people into a legal mob. They lie, steal, break the law, manipulate and grab wealth and power with impunity as they craft the laws they break. Many of them have become leeches upon our society, the longer they serve the bolder they become.
If one wants to enrich themselves, run for congress. It won’t be long and they can have all of the power and wealth their little hearts desire by using facts, feelings and manipulation. They try it and like it! New car, house? Run for congress, it works!

Putts42 (@guest_1073430)
Reply to  MSPS
1 year ago

I couldn’t agree more.

Theodore (@guest_1073715)
Reply to  Putts42
1 year ago

“We” need to impeach many of them!

paw paw (@guest_1073610)
1 year ago

We’ve been going the “fuzzy, wuzzy, feely way” since the 1980’s. That’s one reason our public school system is so lousy.

Theodore (@guest_1073718)
Reply to  paw paw
1 year ago

One of the main things that I feel is causing some of this not all of it but some, is television. Back in early 2000 I was in college, my grades weren’t doing so hot, that’s when I figured out that I was watching too much television. I got mad because I wanted to finish what I had started. So, I unplugged it, and carried it outside, and placed it on the curb. I graduated Cum Lauda. I went from somebody who was about to fail out of college to graduating Cum Lauda.
That said I figured I don’t need a television anymore and I haven’t had one since. If I want to watch movies I do have a DVD player. But one of the methods used to brainwash people I figure is the television we’ve got to get back to basics, period.
every time I go outside I see people all over the place with their phones in their faces. Totally oblivious to what’s around them. Unaware of their surroundings somebody with a knife or a gun could walk up to him and kill him before they even knew what happened. This too is brainwashing people. I have neighbors and plates video games 24/7 365. And it’s like the only thing that matters to them. Sad so sad. We have become a society so wrapped up in technology we can’t see ourselves for what we are or what we are doing to ourselves.
If this were the 1700’s on up to about 1940 1950 I do believe a chunk of lead would have found its way inside some of these people’s heads, or a length of rope would have stretched a few necks.

PROVE ME WRONG (@guest_1075898)
1 year ago

I did where did my comment go ???????????

1 year ago

Instagram takipçi satın almanın hesabınıza bir çok önemli katkısı bulunmaktadır. Instagram Türk gerçek takipçi satın al fırsatı ile şu avantajları elde edebilmeniz mümkün

1 year ago

En iyi sosyal medya platformları arasında yer alan Instagram üzerinde birçok hesap sahibinin en temel hedeflerinden biri



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