June 25, 2021

Pence seeks dismissal of lawsuit that would give him the power to overturn the election

Vice President Mike Pence is seeking the dismissal of a lawsuit brought by Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) that would place the onus on Pence to decide which electors would be counted when Congress meets on January 6th to certify the election. 

Pence isn’t alone in requesting that a Texas federal judge dismiss the case — Pence also has the House of Representatives on his side.

The Justice Department — acting on behalf of Pence — called the suit a “walking legal contradiction” due to the fact that Gohmert and his Arizona colleagues that joined the lawsuit have named Pence as the sole plaintiff, but he is also “ironically the very person whose power they seek to promote.”

The Justice Department is speaking and acting on Pence’s behalf because he has been sued in his official capacity as Vice President and President of the Senate.

Fox News reported on Gohmert’s case:

Mr. Gohmert’s lawsuit challenges the procedures that will govern Congress’s counting of electoral votes next week, which will cement President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. Further, the lawsuit argues that the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which assigns the vice president a ceremonial role in announcing the election results, circumscribes his power under the 12th Amendment.

Gohmert’s legal team argued that Pence has the power to authorize the counting of electoral votes as President of the Senate, writing in the brief:

Under the 12th Amendment, Defendant Pence alone has the exclusive authority and sole discretion to open and permit the counting of the electoral votes for a given state, and where there are competing slates of electors, or where there is objection to any single slate of electors, to determine which electors’ votes, or whether none, shall be counted.

House General Counsel Douglas Letter responded that the power of the Vice President lies exclusively in “opening the certificates,” leaving the duty of the actual “counting of the votes” to others.

The Justice Department suggested that Gohmert should instead sue the House since the 1887 act gives the legislature the powers that Gohmert wants Pence to seize.

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54 Responses

      1. Pence might well be compromised—remember the rumors Years back that He might be under threat of blackmail? Rumors were hushed; but around the time of Pizza Gate & Jeffery’s Island there was a rustling in the bushes.
        Nothing to base my suspicions on ; unless (if&only IF) He back stabs President akin to the way that pig of a RINO Mitt Romney has done.

      2. If 3 of. The 5 contested States recertify their Resaults. Trump may win anyway. Pa just reported they had. 102,000 more Ballots than Voters .An that may help Trump. Mich also Decertifyed their Votes . 😲 That will also help Trump. There was a Article that explained Trump won AZ. 😀 We can only Hope GA. GOP Wins those to seats. But that will also be Rigged. 🙈

      3. Pence HAS been comprised .. he was bought. There is no loyalty that Pence has for Trump! He is part of the deep state now …. he has been for quite some time now. He is the Cabal’s Ace in the hole … thier plan b

        1. The majority of elected officials all belong to the same secret sorority and the blood oaths they have taken will not allow them to betray the world vision endeavor. I once knew a Baptist pastor that once was a mason and I asked him different questions concerning the masons’ and he said he was not allowed to tell me because of the oaths he had taken. So unless Pence wants to be either buried neck deep at low tide or have his tongue cut out he will comply.

    1. The greatest trick the devil ever did was to convince many He did not exist. The sneakiest thing communists have ever done was to promise UTOPIA and murder (in the 20th Century) between 150-200 Million of the citizens considered POLITICALLY INCORRECT.

  1. RECALL NEWSOME IN CALIFORNIA – LET THE CALIFORNIA PEOPLE VOTE FOR WHO TAKES HIS PLACE AND WHO TAKES THE PLACE OF HARRIS.

    1. Indeed; gruesome Newsome and Aunt Nancy the Multi-Millionaires (?made thru pay to play?) play acting as little gods while laughing at the fools that voted Them into office—perhaps with “stuffed” ballot boxes?

  2. I now suggest Pence openly join the democrat/communist party,and be open about who,and what he really is deep down inside. We can clearly see his misplaced devotion to the tepid,dying “Neocon Party{fake republicans} willing to betray American freedom for his fragile,and probably fearful desire to please his democrat/communist owners!

    1. I never thought Pence would stab Trump in the back,but I guess I was wrong.so I agree with you about him.what a shame, I am really disappointed in him

    2. Perhaps He has been offered a thing he cannot refuse? Blackmail is a dirty game one witch Hillary has used since She stoled 900 raw F.B.I. files while exiting Our White House—How many are being blackmailed? Is Our Chief Justice under Hillary’s — well I digress.

  3. Contested States certified their electoral votes by the executive branch like Governors, Secretary of States; not the
    Legislatures. That is a huge conflict. Pence can adjudicate by denying their certification replacing them with a slate
    of electors from the Republican Party. Trump Wins!

  4. If you read it correctly PENCE IS DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY! He is not a coward, he is doing it according to the Constitution.

    1. I agree with Dennis & J above. Also CEO of Domnion voting systems just said he lied about the voting machines. They can be changed/hacked by connecting to the internet/online. Witched happened in the battle ground states. PA Supreme court just said more votes came through then, live there, witched changed the win to Trump!!

      Also need to contact your Congress and legislators you want them to contest January 6th votes, if Biden is selected due to the over whelming fraud in the November 3 election especially in the battleground states.

      Americans need to stand strong for Mr Trump so our votes will count!!! Not like Mitch McConnel who seems to be bought off by the Dems/Biden.

    2. Exactly! Also, Pence would be talking with lawyers and Trump. They’ve got to play this all just right to get the win America needs

  5. Pence is another gutless wonder who refuses to stand with/for the 75,000,000 people who voted for Trump. If he indeed chooses to NOT stand with Trump, I will never support him again. : (

    1. 75,000,000 votes for President Trump and Vice-President Pence, so will Pence kick himself out of a job and let Kamala Harris replace him?

    2. I saw that Pence is thinking about running for President in 2024. If that proves to be the case, and he stabs President Trump and 74,000,000 voters in the back, he will not get ONE vote from us!

      1. I highly doubt there will be a presidential election in 2024. At least, not as we have known elections. I believe what the PTB are after is regional government. The political configuration of the world at the time of the tribulation is 10 what the bible calls kingdoms, but what we would probably call regional governments. Since the sense of what I’ve been reading lately regarding Biden’s et al plans appears to be dismantling our present form of government, I believe that’s what they’re after. Making us a part of a regional government (note how your electronics packaging has French, English and Spanish on the boxes). Indeed, with Apophis approaching (arrival in 2029), and judgment looming ahead, they know their time is short, so they’re going to go great guns in implementing it, or at least trying to.

  6. I suspect Pence will do what he can to rectify the election, and is rejecting the law suit, in order to keep the loonies off his back until after the Senate count.

  7. I believe Mitch MC Connell and others are the gutless wonders not Mike Pence he us just trying to keep Trump in office and throw the scum ball head of the Biden crime family and all the rest of his crones back to the garbage dump where they belong.

    1. I am replying to everyone here. Please hold your Judgement until after or on Jan 6th. If everything goes as it should, there will be a lot of people with egg on their faces. Thank you and Happy New Year.

  8. When I joined the Republican Party I knew then that the Democrat party and Democracy were two separate words and were not of the same meanings . That is one thing which needs to be taught at all schools as a requirement , democracy and more democrats are not the same goal . Oh ,by the way I am 69 years old and have been a republican for 51 years so I know of what I say . President Trump is the best president I have ever lived under and PRAY He serves another Four for the World’s sake and not just the United States .

    1. I agree. We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. The media is confusing everybody therefore, we jump to conclusions that Pence is stabbing Trump. I don’t believe that he is. Only one person knows what’s going on and HE is in control. Get on your knees and pray for your President and Vice President.

  9. We have another option. Stop making accusations on conflicting out of context statements. Reading above is like heads dems/ rhinos win tails patriots lose. Fraud is unconstitutional and we all have our second amendment right to defend liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What do you think would happen if 10 million patriots fully armed marched against the criminal left democrat/rhino tyranny? Texas can secede. We can join in like the other 17 states and build up the patriot defense of freedom. Talk is cheap, dems/rhinos have lied 24/7 for over 4 years trying a coup against a sitting president. I declare Trump the winner based on the evidence. The dems and Rhinos all are collaborators that we will deal with them as time progresses. Time to take action if this fraud is not rectified. A line in the sand. Cross the Delaware.

  10. Pence is a man of great integrity and a faithful man of God, if he would change the outcome of the election by getting involved in this lawsuit the outcome would be a disaster. Congress has to do the right thing and decertify the fraud states then leave it to the states to vote.

  11. I think we should all be careful of judging too quickly. We need to show the “leadership??” that we are watching them and what we expect – but not judge one person without more facts. I am not ready to toss Pence to the wolves, Nancy YES we have ample proof of Nancy, Clintons and Obamas power high and dishonesty. If people keep working each other up than the country will be back in a civil war and a revolutionary war both at the same time. We do not need to go backwards and repeat history. Hopefully, we can move forward peacefully into a new year and get rid of the scrum by proving this election was dishonest. We have no choice at the moment but to have faith in Pence to do the right thing. Pray for him no matter what your religion is — PRAY and contact your senators.

    1. Norma I too am trying to maintain faith in Pence as a Christian and a Republican who loves this country and doesn’t want to see it fall to evil. If he really has a desire to run for president I can’t believe he’d stab Trump and 74million supporters in the back. He’ll need us. WE need in the meantime to just be patient and trust. God’s still in control.

  12. free nukes for all American Citizens if i win the the next election for President of the united States of America, if you like Trump , you’ll love my presidency, the only exec order of Trumps that i will take off the table is the unconstitutional Red Flag laws, No One is to be Red Flagged without Due Process of Law, and i will restore All Constitutional Individual Rights Back to All Citizens of the USA, TOP to BOTTOM !!!!!

  13. Cannot believe that a Vice President Of The United States would actually turn TRAITOR. What a blow ! He will have to live with that for the rest of his life if he follows through with that ! If the politicians in this Country follow the law, and he goes against them, I have absolutely no sympathy for him ! ! !

  14. Gosh, wish I could keep up with all this ! I don’t understand why some of these republicans DO WHAT THE HECK THEY DO ! SEEMS NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING EXCEPT …….PRESIDENT. and I trust him COMPLETELY.

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