September 22, 2021

Likelihood of Trump trial ending in conviction fades

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) favors convicting former President Trump but confessed on Monday that the Senate trial might indeed be unconstitutional — as many Republicans had already pointed out. 

Murphy told Fox News Sunday that Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-KY) point that the impeachment trial is unconstitutional was reasonable, saying, “I admit this is, of course, a matter of first impression and so I don’t think the case that Senator Paul is making is a ridiculous one.”

The Constitution provides for the impeachment of a sitting president, who, if convicted, can then be removed from office. The Democrats are trying to remove a former president from an office he no longer occupies.

Article 2, section 4 of the Constitution reads:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Likening the impeachment proceedings in the House of Representatives to a Soviet-style “show trial,” Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) told NBC’s Meet the Press, “Let’s face it, the House did an incredibly poor job of building a case before the impeachment vote. There was no process. I mean, it’s almost like, you know, if it happened in the Soviet Union, you would have called it a show trial.”

Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC) told CBS’s Face the Nation that the outcome was not really in doubt and pointed to the 45 Republicans that went on record to oppose the impeachment.

Graham said, “Impeachment is a political process. We’ve never impeached a president once they’re out of office. I think this is a really bad idea. Forty-five-plus Republicans are going to vote early on that it’s unconstitutional. It’s not a question of how the trial ends. It’s a question of when it ends.”

Sen. Rand Paul said that there is “zero” chance that the Senate will convict former President Trump.

The impeachment trial is set to begin on Tuesday, February 9, 2021, at 1 pm E.T. Few details have been revealed, but according to Fox News, there will be some debate on the constitutionality of the trial: “The trial would start with four hours of debate on whether the trial is constitutional, then a vote on whether to proceed. There also could be debate and a vote on if impeachment managers can call witnesses, which would be subject to a simple majority threshold.”

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Louise Shelley (@guest_1127685)
7 months ago

The process against THIS PRESIDENT is a true sign of the communist influence.

PAT (@guest_1127715)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

Your 100% correct.
The Radical, Racist, Nazi, Compulsive Liars, Dark Cash Money & Power Hungry, Criminal Corrupt, Satan DemoRATS, have so much to hide, since they have been committing Criminal Activities for YEARS AND YEARS and have been getting away with it, because they all protect each other.
They all knew, that if our Greatest & Historic President Donald J. Trump, would have had 4 more years, all the Satan DemoRATS would have been brought to justice for all their Crimes and would have been Impeached and even sentence to Jail….that is why the RIGGED THE ELECTION….BUT THEY WILL PAY THE PRICE…

Virginia Martinez (@guest_1127723)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

Agree! Well said!

Robert (@guest_1127727)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

As Trump left in the oval office table as his note to Bidumb, I WON Joe you know it.

Brad (@guest_1127744)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

Well I, as an American citizen think they should evade the impeachment of Donald Trump, and stop wasting our time and tax dollars over this travesty. But instead the impeachments of Joe Biden, Harris, Schumer, Pelosi, M. Waters and others for their acts of Treason toward our Constitution. of our Great Country. Instead of our Country first. Biden puts our country as last. Only toward his greed.

Lee O. Welter (@guest_1127767)
Reply to  Brad
7 months ago

Well stated. Did we really elect the most corrupt candidates?

Michael Edward Hughes (@guest_1127825)
Reply to  Lee O. Welter
7 months ago

Yes, of course “we” did. And it is great disappointment to me, personally, as to the level of intelligence of the “majority” of those who voted for ANY liberal!

David (@guest_1128041)
Reply to  Lee O. Welter
7 months ago

Speak for yourself, I certainly didn’t vote for the demorcratic skum

Phyllis clemons (@guest_1127846)
Reply to  Brad
7 months ago

I agree Brad!

Luke (@guest_1128052)
Reply to  Brad
7 months ago

Amen brother, well said!

Robert Cantrell (@guest_1128597)
Reply to  Brad
7 months ago

and theirs only one penalty for treason and that’s DEATH

gennie (@guest_1129906)
Reply to  Brad
7 months ago

I agree , why these are left to loot and pilfer our constitution I just do not understand, is there not any honest Democrats that are not afraid of the big old ones, the ones that have been there at the least 30 years too long. Charge them and impeach them. Look like that should have already been done.

Tammy Porter (@guest_1127762)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

Right on I’m hoping their tactics will flip the votes on the election so President Trump can get back at the wheel and save America before it’s too late!

RB (@guest_1127808)
Reply to  Tammy Porter
7 months ago

Now with all the evidence together DC prosecutor will have easy case to take Trump to court on charges

Michael Edward Hughes (@guest_1127829)
Reply to  RB
7 months ago

There is no “evidence”, only a preponderance of lying liberals, foaming at the mouth!

Patricia (@guest_1127857)
Reply to  RB
7 months ago

Lies don’t equal evidence. He said she said is not admissible in court-it’s called heresay. I hope Trump Sue’s the pants off of Pelosi and her evil, nasty posse!(patti)

Virginia Vice (@guest_1127773)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

Pelosi & Schumer & McConnell must be investigated ASAP. BIDEN AND HIS CABINET OF CORRUPTED COMMUNIST MUST BE IMPEACHED NOW, WE CAN’T AFFORD TO LET BIDEN KILL ALL OUR JOBS.

Frances Clift (@guest_1127838)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

Love you reference to Demorats.
.

DONALD (@guest_1127861)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

PAT GREAT JOB !!!!

JJ (@guest_1128044)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY START OUTTING SINE SWAMPSTERS ON THE STAND “UNDER OATH”! I hope they mess in their own nest which is what I foresee happening!
I think the whole pre-arranged plan was Dens not wanting Electoral votes contested, and REPUBLICANS fell right in step with their plan!!! Pelosi was responsible for security and probably had a hand in it!

Driver1 (@guest_1130737)
Reply to  JJ
7 months ago

You are Absolutely correct she was responsible for security she had a hand in what happened there is no doubt about it

Nora (@guest_1128673)
Reply to  PAT
7 months ago

You are 100% correct!

von Potter (@guest_1127717)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

Or LOUISE, the fact that DEMS/RINOS have never read the Constitiution…….They have proven their inability to make correct choices according to our laws and BOR…………

Tammy Porter (@guest_1127763)
Reply to  von Potter
7 months ago

They don’t want to. They have investments in the countries they are helping and Biden’s family is in bed with China.

denise benson (@guest_1127752)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

We can only hope TRUMP has the will to come back and TAKE BACK AMERICA and we Impeach JOE< KAMI < NANCY < CHUCKIE < MAXINE < They all should have a turn!!! We need to make their lives a living hell just like they did for TRUMP. Only God can help us. God Bless America.

Betty Miller (@guest_1127816)
Reply to  denise benson
7 months ago

Amen!!!

rm (@guest_1127908)
Reply to  denise benson
7 months ago

Look at Nancy Pelosi’s face and compare that to Cruella deVil in the old 101 Dalmations movie…. “Cruella deVil, Cruella deVil, if someone will hurt you, she surely will, Cruella Cruella deVil…. Look at a picture of biden’s cabinet….faces of EVIL….

Jeanette Zook (@guest_1128020)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

100% correct!

LouAnn McGregor (@guest_1128032)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

Exactly!!!

Roger Mann (@guest_1128393)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

Even if the senate were to convict Donald Trump which I believe is highly unlikely, they don’t have the final say, he can appeal to the SCOTUS and he can sue them for unconstitutional overreach!

robert w sanders (@guest_1128701)
Reply to  Louise Shelley
7 months ago

The Demorats are the terrorist and communist.

stuart nolting (@guest_1127687)
7 months ago

Let these SCUMBAG VERMIN DEMONRATS do this impeachment because this will play right into the hands of TRUMPS legal team which will be able to show seditious and treasonous crimes committed with election fraud, pedophlia, human trafficking, and other crimes committed by these worthless slithering snakes!

Jeanette Zook (@guest_1128021)
Reply to  stuart nolting
7 months ago

They are probably very scared, as he might do that anyway.

LouAnn McGregor (@guest_1128034)
Reply to  stuart nolting
7 months ago

All these evil Democrat’s will get what is coming to them when they stand in front of their creator

Gregg warren (@guest_1128154)
Reply to  LouAnn McGregor
7 months ago

Everything they accuse trump of is the same things all the top dems are guilty of so let’s IMPEACH THEN IMPRISON THEM FOR LIFE WITH NO CHANCE OF PAROLE!!

Cathy (@guest_1128271)
Reply to  LouAnn McGregor
7 months ago

That is so true!

Wally (@guest_1127689)
7 months ago

Even if president Trump was still in office he is not guilty of anything. We all know the real crime is the scam, fake treasonous, fraud election that we just all witnessed. So CHINA, now has their paid for puppet prez. Just saying!!!!

Helen (@guest_1127758)
Reply to  Wally
7 months ago

This is true

Cheryl Bellerose (@guest_1127770)
Reply to  Wally
7 months ago

ABSOLUTELY! I don’t know why the Democrats hate Trump! He has done more for this country than the Democrats have done in years! The democratic party is all about them. They want to control the country with their stupid deals that will lead to corruption, loss of businesses, releasing criminals, urging immigrants to come here without any means of their background. What the hell happened to coming to America legally??? One of the worst Democrats is Obama! He is nothing but a traitor and a Liar! He said he was born in the USA and brother and one of his daughters found out he was born in Kenya! Yet he became President, which was the worse one ever! He and LUCIFIER HILLARY HAVE BEEN BEHIND THIS ELECTION FROM THE GET GO! AND LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING?? I hope the people that has betrayed this country and President Trump go straight to hell!

Jeanette Zook (@guest_1128022)
Reply to  Wally
7 months ago

So very true.

Dale Reyner (@guest_1127690)
7 months ago

Children at play with our Lives and our Personal Beliefs .

JJ (@guest_1128048)
Reply to  Dale Reyner
7 months ago

AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS which are based on the 10 Commandments!!!

Norm Richter (@guest_1127692)
7 months ago

It’s too bad the Democrats don’t take the time they have to run our economy which requires adults able to think rather than vindictive children out for revenge or terribly jealous of all the good President Trump has done. They also fear he will be back and then they will be gone from their high paying jobs for life.

Steven Lynch (@guest_1127694)
7 months ago

I say go after all Dem’s that did what they say Trump did don’t just stop after Mr. Trump get off Please go after the illegal voting that was done make me a believer in are justice system that I fell we lost

Joe (@guest_1127696)
7 months ago

I think they should impeach all Senator that have said violent things against other senators or at people not just Trump is not the only one that discriminate them self.

Pollty (@guest_1127697)
7 months ago

President Donald J Trump is being persecuted for doing what is right for America and the people.God’s watching and He is just

Francine Martin (@guest_1127698)
7 months ago

and once this sham of an impeachment attempt is over, a lawsuit every day from republicans, judicial watch and states like texas and south dakota.

ANA (@guest_1127699)
7 months ago

I would like to know President Trump’s email. I want to thank him for making America Great the last 4 years.
and he is the BEST president, the GOAT of all Presidents.
thank you

Louis Pratt (@guest_1127700)
7 months ago

No matter how you look at it, this impeachment effort is totally wrong. This sort of dishonesty needs to be cleaned up.

JJ (@guest_1128053)
Reply to  Louis Pratt
7 months ago

The SCOTUS won’t take 10 seconds to REVERSE it on appeal!!

GeneC (@guest_1127702)
7 months ago

Like most of America I believe that the Democrats are out of their minds, with hate for a person, not even in office anymore. It is not because the people didn’t elect him though, it is because of the hate mongering media and Democrat party, doing illegal things that he is not in office. That being said I think the left leaning government is in trouble already trying to implement Obama era rules, that didn’t work then and will not work now. It is a shame they are to stupid to see, that their results are not going to be good, for the american people.

sherry (@guest_1127721)
Reply to  GeneC
7 months ago

agreed

Howard (@guest_1127802)
Reply to  GeneC
7 months ago

GeneC, Obama is pulling the strings right now. Until he is stopped, this kind of thing will continue!!

JJ (@guest_1128054)
Reply to  Howard
7 months ago

Don’t forget Killary and Bernie!

Joe (@guest_1127703)
7 months ago

I think they should impeach any Senate that has in the past or in the future be impeached for the wrong on saying trying to hurt Senate or people.

Patti Miller (@guest_1127704)
7 months ago

Our government is extremely corrupt we should all be very worried !!

David Ormsby (@guest_1127730)
Reply to  Patti Miller
7 months ago

You should support the Convention of States effort as it will, if approved, propose a constitutional amendment to limit terms of congressionals.

JJ (@guest_1128059)
Reply to  Patti Miller
7 months ago

But GOD is in charge! And we don’t know what is going on “behind the scenes”

Louis Pratt (@guest_1127708)
7 months ago

First and foremost, the dishonesty in elections must be eliminated.

Fed up 2 (@guest_1127710)
7 months ago

Yep. If the dems want to act like spoiled brats they should be treated as such. Punish them just like they want to punish us and ours. 😡

Terry John Gellner (@guest_1127711)
7 months ago

I just Hate what these DemoRats are doing to Me, Republicans and President Trump!!!!
They DemoRats are liers and cheaters; they are the Fake News
I will never even consider voting for a DemoRat ever again in my life time!!!
Also I am scared to death of these Domain machines and believe they all need to go to the dump; After an audit of all of them!!!
I do not believe the results from these machines; including my own in MO.

James McCollum (@guest_1127716)
7 months ago

The Democrats are power mad and will destroy the good economy made by Trump. They are so blinded by hate that they can’t make good decisions. Why cancel the Keystone pipeline when it was employing so many people and brings us closer to a ruined economy, especially with the open boundaries and stupid pledges by Biden to pile money onto the people crashing through the border! They Democrats are ruining they economy and will reep the retrobution for the failure of the economy, but the American people will suffer for it. Can’t the Democrats see what’s ahead for them because of their hate of Trump?

Gail (@guest_1127722)
7 months ago

Sad state of affairs that the congress is using impeachment like this and pelosi is still speaker of the house! Watch out for 2022, that election will be watched. Funny that they stopped the wall at the border only to move it to DC, pelosi knows she is not liked!!!!!!!

Emil Gever (@guest_1127724)
7 months ago

We are facing more and more automation resulting in fewer and fewer jobs. We kill tons of jobs for fear that they may damage the environment. Then we open our borders to unskilled workers who have no real chance of finding work (but some could take jobs away from American Citizens). Instead they will be living on the streets, defecating on the sidewalks and creating all kinds of illnesses typical of third world countries. I sometimes wonder if our leaders are actually attempting to destroy our country or just trying to secure permanent jobs overseeing the lives of destitute citizens.

Fed up 2 (@guest_1128422)
Reply to  Emil Gever
7 months ago

Yes theyre trying to destroy our country. Then they can have all the power to form it the way they want it. Thus their mantra ” Build back better”. Such idiots.

Gary m (@guest_1127725)
7 months ago

This trial is a distraction from what Biden doing, that is what it is for. They know that it will not work, they don’t expect it to work. It is meant to be a distraction. Pay attention to what Biden is doing, and what Pelosi is doing in the house. That is more important than the sham trial.

carrol hoel (@guest_1127726)
7 months ago

How can they have a trial without the Chief Justice of Supreme Court. What they have is An impersonator of The Chief Justice which I see as farce.

I thought it was against the law to say that you are someone on the Supreme court . And clearly not.

masr (@guest_1127728)
7 months ago

It has NEVER mattered to a liberal progressive Democrat Communist whether something is “constitutional” ot “lawful”.
“The end justifies the means.”

Howard (@guest_1127811)
Reply to  masr
7 months ago

Patti, it will only get worse as long as we allow it. Its obvious from the last election, voting is not going to solve the problem.

Gary Holliday (@guest_1127742)
7 months ago

I still hear people talking about taking out the Dem leaders, Media, twitter etc because it would be better than an open armed civil war as there is not enough secret agents to guard them all. I hear this kind of talk while standing line at the grocery store and even at lumber yards. The Bible says thou shalt not kill and I agree. But I am afraid that people can only be pushed so far before they push back. And that time seams to be near. God help us all if that time comes. Our country was founded on war for our freedoms. Pray that we don’t have to go thru that again.
Everyone says wait till 2022 but what will stop them from steeling another election at that time nothing will stop the deadly out come. Pray for peace & understanding

Rick (@guest_1127753)
7 months ago

IT AMAZES ME HOW THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET CAN HAVE SUCH STUPID, IGNORANT INDIVIDUALS RUNNING IT, are these people just brain dead from birth or Is our CITIZENS just that stupid, THE DEMOCRATS act like frickin children and make decisions out of spite for a PRESIDENT that makes them all look stupid, how dare PRESIDENT TRUMP make them look as bad as they are in their jobs, and now we are IMPEACHING this PRESIDENT for the second time with no infractions, these idiots just know how to waste TAXPAYER MONEY AND NOTHING ELSE.

Good luck (@guest_1127754)
7 months ago

If the Democrats impeach Trump , then Many Democrats should be impeached also . The Democrats push violence. Democrats have asked for violence against Trump supporters. Democrats have said its ok to riot . Democrats have said its ok to tear down Statues. Under the democrats guides of impeachment of Trump, then Pelosi , Schumer , Waters, Harrris, AOC and a few more all should be impeached . Its time Democrats rules and laws go for BOTH sides.

jjofaz (@guest_1127755)
7 months ago

For those that voted for impeachment and lost, 10% of their salary should be deducted to pay the costs of the lawyers’ salaries that had to be hired by the opposition to defend themself. That would make the frivolous use of impeachment disappear quickly. The speaker of the house, if compliant with the impeachment, should cough up 25% of her yearly salary.

American man (@guest_1127756)
7 months ago

We are watching a cartoon in congress playout! we the people should sue the demoraps for using our hard earned money on a sham like this. I want to see real justice play out, like the impeachment of Schumer, Pelosi. waters Nadler and shiff now that would be okay on using our tax dollars.

Billy Wilson (@guest_1127757)
7 months ago

This action is about hating Trump and everything he did for this nation. Look at the Pen of Biden in his first week in office ,Pure hate because Clinton lost and now Obama has his third term.

MarieAnna Dvorak (@guest_1127759)
7 months ago

Not only is this a Soviet-style “show trial,” but all their previous actions were Soviet-style. As a psychologist, I am bothered by a question of what made all the communists suddenly rise after Obama left office. Undoubtedly, their narcissistic personality disorder was unleashed, but how did it happen?    

Gary m (@guest_1127761)
7 months ago

McConnel and Schumer went into a room to hammer out an agreement on the impeachment.
Schumer said : We are making out the order for the rope.
McConnel said: How much do think we’ll need.
Schumer said : At least six feet.
McConnel said : I’ll go to the store and measure it, to make sure we have enough.
Schumer said : Good deal and at least one inch thick.
McConnel said : Who is paying this time.
Schumer said : As usual the taxpayer.

Sorcerer 7 (@guest_1127778)
7 months ago

Congress has more evidence to impeach Chuckie “crocodile tears” Schumer than they ever did with President Trump, starting with threatening Supreme Court Justices.
Sooner than later, the old cliche “what goes around , comes around” will kick in, and then all the excuses, lies, crocodile tears, threats and attempts of intimidation won’t work.
It will include all those that abused, disregarded and ignored their Oaths Of Office.

Frank A Wallace (@guest_1127779)
7 months ago

One word. Unconstitutional.

Frances Clift (@guest_1127841)
7 months ago

Love you reference to Demorats.
.

Joe Bradshaw (@guest_1127863)
7 months ago

+
Not only do we have a criminal element in the white house but also in the senate and congress
shumer is condemning trump when he did the same thing……and pelosi ( boy is that a piece of work)
two faced and thinks she is above the law , and some of the so called republicans…like that loser
from utah…..they should be recalled and censured…..back stabing and traitors as far as I,m concerned
they do not care about the USA……..as forest says thats all I got to say about that

Cheryl Bellerose (@guest_1127887)
7 months ago

It’s ok for the Democrats to call Trump supporters Deplorables and any other slur than can! And the people that support them are just supposed sit back and take it! Just like people in the Democratic people think Trump supporters have to be deprogrammed! In other words if people like Trump for his policies and what he has done for this country in 4 years, the people that support Trump means we have no freedom of speech or opinion! I see it is only the Democrats can trash Trump and his supports, but the supporters can’t trash the Democrats! Where is OUR FREEDOM! So the bottom line is the Democrats can trash Trump & his supporters, but the Republicans and the deplorables can’t trash the Democrats, who think they are above the law. And they call this a DEMOCRACY??? I DON’T THINK SO!

ROOSTER (@guest_1128010)
7 months ago

PLEASE DO NOT COMPARE THESE FOOLISH PEOPLE TO CHILDREN!!! THE YOUTH ARE WATCHING THIS WHOLE FALSE CHARADE AND ARE MUCH SMARTER THAN THE ADULTS CHARGING OUT THIS SO CALLED CRIME !! THIS IS A VERY POOR EXAMPLE FOR OUR YOUNG CHILDREN AND HOLLYWOOD IS RIGHT BEHIND THEM FOR POOR ROLE MODEL EXAMPLES !! GOD FORBID THESE STUPIFIED ADULTS OF EVIL…HATEFUL GENDERS AND PERSONALITIES OF EVILDOERS !! GOD BLESS THE KIDS OF THE U.S.A. AND HELP THEM TO HAVE PEACE BY EXAMPLE FROM RESPONSIBILE ADULTS, OF WHICH THERE ARE FEW ROLE MODELS ANY MORE !! GOD BLESS AMERICA UNTIL SHE / HE DECIDES THAT GOD IS A HIGHER POWER THAN MAN !! WE ARE IN TROUBLE UNTIL PEOPLE CONFESS THEIR SINS OF THE EVILOF MANKIND !! THE WISE OLD OWL AND HIS WISE FRIENDS….AKA…ROOSTER WITH HIS LEFT WING MISSING !!

Ekonomia Blog (@guest_1215600)
5 months ago

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